Example Jack asking
W	Axx		xx	E
W/non	Axx		xxx
AKQx			xx
xxx			AKQxxx

13+ any shape	[Pass]	[1]	main part 6+ bal. Or 12+ any
13+ bal. 17+ Delta. 16+ extreme	[1]	1	6-11p. 5332 (then 2 of 3 Toph.) or 5422 or 6322 (no Toph. information in this stage) - if a closed 6322, 12 points are possible -
positive relay	[1]	3	6322 closed 9-12 points
a side King ? (by the way: with 3 you can ask for a side Queen or King)	3}	3	no side King
Jack ? (you can handle Jack asking for the other 3 suits including with the 4 bid)	5}	5	no J
no other bids are possible, so it has to be to play	5	Pass

*asking for Ten's after Jack asking -although the chapter's name is 'Precision to extremes' - goes really to far,..............

okay, to serve you anyway

see following example:

Example to figure out theTEN in the solid suit
W	AKQxx		xx	E
E/non	J		AKQTxxx
Axx			xx
Axxx			xx	origin board: example

	--	2	8-12 any 7222, can be closed too
relay	[2]	3	any 7222 closed 9-12, no side Queen or King
TEN included in your solid suit?	{5}	6	yes*
a 4/2 break in spades is okay	7	P
*6 = no Ten, you may end in 6

Is there a 9th trick for 3?
W	Axx		xxx	E
E/EW	Axxx		xx
AKJx			QTxxxx
Ax			xxx
origin board : Dutch Bridge news group

13+ any shape	Pass	1	0-5 any shape no Ace or any K+Q 6-11p. any 5332 and no 2 Tophon. of 3 5M4?22 or 4333/4432 (=bal. 1 opening)
any 4333/4432, 19-22 points non forcing	1	2	5+c 0-5 points OR 6-11 the 2 answer of the bal. 1 opening
Good support	2}	2	5+c 0-5 points with 1 Toph. of 3 6-9 5332 and no 2 Toph. of 3
second positive and stayman	3}	3	6+c 0-5 points with 1 Toph. of 3 6-9 5332 and no 2 Toph. of 3
after 3} the answer of 3 = 5card and the 0-5 points with 1 Toph. of 3 variant, 3= 4c , 3 = 4c

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Difficult hand regarding the way of asking the values
W	KJ53		AQT72	E
E/EW	A8		52
KJ98			AQT7
AK6			52

	---	1	8-12 any 4333, 4432 any 5332 and no 2 Tophon. of 3 5M4?22
relay	[1]	3	54/ 22 and a maximum
relay	[3]	3	« 5242 »
end signal	4	4	obliged bid
Slam Asking Bid for the AKQ values in partner's 2 suits	4	5	2 Aces/Kings ànd 2 Queens
	7	P

W	AKQ		xxx	E
W/EW	Qxxxxx		KJ
AK			Qxxx
xx			xxxx
origin board: BBO thread "suggest an auction"

13+ any shape	Pass	1	0-5 any shape (no Ace ò King + any Queen) 6-11 any 4333, 4432, or any 5332 and no 2 Tophon/3, 5M4?22
13+ any 5+ carder OR 23+ 4333/4432	[1]	1	6-9 4333/4432 or 5m332 no 2 Toph./3
relay	[2]	2	a minimum/minimum 6-7 (if 8 then bad) if 7: no Ace+any King
bid 2 and you will hear	2}	2	obliged bid
17-18/19 6c but poor- suit, non forcing	3	4	fine help, so with f.e. xxx,xx,Qxxx,KJxx you can Pass
after 2 the possibilities are: 2= game forcing relay 2= --> Partner bid 2 and then: Pass, 3 or 3 = stopper askings, 3M = 17-18/19 with bad Major 6-carder 2= --> Partner bid 3 and then: Pass, 3x = non forcing 6-carder 15-16/17 3x = 6-carder and : Partner start control bidding

even with a Yarborough it is worthwhile to open.......
W	86		AK73	E
W/non	54		AK9
9732			AK
86432			AJT5

0-7 points (no any Ace and King)	1	[1]	13+ any shape and no 13-22p. with a 4333/4432
0-5 points no Ace òr any King and Queen	1	[1]	20+ relay
0-3 points no singleton/void and no King	2	[2]	24+ relay and forcing to game
is the main suit 5332, 5422 or 6322 shape òr a 7222 en then no -Queen OR any 7222 withOutside Queen OR 7222 with Qx	2	[3]	relay
5422	3	[3]	relay for exact distribution
2-2-4-5	3	6	you can reach dummy with a ruff to handle the trumpf suit and if needed secondly with a ruff
	Pass

example of the advantage of having more information than pure exact distribution below game level
W	AKxx		xx	E
W/non	AJxx		xx
KQ			Jxxxxxx
AKx			Qx

13+ any shape	[Pass]	1	0-5any shape No Ace òr a King+ any Queen OR 6-11 part balanced
relay (if 4333/4432 then 23+p.)	[1]	1	the 0-5 variant
++ relay	[1]	2	0-3 points (no King) and balanced 4333 up to 7222
+++relay	[2]	2	5332, 5422 or 6322 OR 7222 and then no Q or QJ OR Qx and any 7222
relay	[3]	4	« 2272 » and in the Queen
Scan Jack(s) including	4}	4	J no J (Jx does not count in the pointrange)
	6	Pass
With AKxx, AQx, KQx, AKx, the system leads you to an easely 6

W	AQxx		Kx	E
W/non	Qxx		Kx
KQxxx			AJ
x			AKJT9xx	origin board:
RGB usenet group

13+ any shape	Pass	[1]	6+ part bal. or 12+ any
13-16 s/v , L= no 5/5 (stiff King does not count in an aceless hand only)	2	[2]	relay
4c, if a 64 then a minimum	3	[3]	relay
a « 4351 » and a minimum 13-14 p.	3	4}	Slam Asking Bid and defines as trump if lateron an other suit or on the 6/7 level= to play if it is an impossible bid only
1 Ace of 5 and no Queen	4	Pass	I'm not happy with a spade lead in 6 (knowing 1 Ace only partner must have KQ + other Q, for which I can investigate in case of AQJx QJT, Kxxxx,x)
in that 13-14 p. range other answers are possible of course and all will lead to the best contract
1 Ace of 5 and Queen	5	6
	Pass
or (5= 0 or 3 if 3 then no Queen will not be possible regarding the hand of east) with Axxx, Axx, KQxxx, x
2 Aces of 5 and no Queen	5	5}	Suit Asking Bid
nothing or KQ	5	6	It can be AQJx, AQx, xxxxx, x
although RR serves mostly, but sometimes he must help partner. Why 5? not with a s/v or stiff Ace 6= yes KQ + info next suit = nothing or KQ	6}	7
	Pass
or after
2 Aces of 5 and no Queen	5	5}	Suit Asking Bid
Queen or AK	6	6	f.e. Axx, AQJ, Vxxxx, x
	Pass
or after
2 Aces of 5 and no Queen	5	5}	Suit Asking Bid
King or AQ	6	6
	Pass
or
2 Aces of 5 and Queen	5	7	The 13th will be a Queen or K
	Pass
or finally 5 = 3 Aces of 5 + Q but in this case not possible

not convinced? see 3 Grands pdf

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with an interference, all = SYSTEM ON (as far as possible)				South:bids 2
W	T42		AJ	E
W/Non	AQ95		KJ2
763			AKJ9542
KT5			7
				origin board: BBO

8-12 4333/4432 or any 5332 without 2 Toph. of 3 or 5M422	[1]	[1]	South:bids 2	13+ any
8-10 4333/4432 8-10 5m332	P*	[X]	15+
4333 9-10p. - if 9 then good quality	2	[3]	distribution relay: game or more (2 is still to play!)
« 3433 »	3	4}	Slam asking bid (Slab not possible because 2=real)
1 Ace of 5 no Q	4	4}	Suit asking bid
K or AQ	5	5}	Suit asking bid (if you know your opponent**)
K or AQ	6	6
	Pass
*system on that means the "lost" bid 1 ** otherwise bid 6 and bid comfortably 6 after a Lightner double by finessing North's Qxx ;-)

and a variant:

with an interference, all = SYSTEM ON (as far as possible)				North:bids 2
W	T42		AJ	E
W/Non	AQ95		KJ2
763			AKJ9542
KT5			7
				origin board: BBO

8-12 4333/4432 or any 5332 without 2 Toph. of 3 or 5M422	[1]	[Pass]	North:bids 2	13+ any or 0-12 4333/4432, no penalty
8-12 4333/4432 (if 11-12 then bad quaity) 8-10 5m332 or 5332, 5422 11-12 5332	X*	[2]	15+
4333/4432	2	[2]	relay: game or more
« 3433 » (or acc. the alternative 4333/4432 scheme bid 3)	3	4}	Slam asking bid (Slab not possible because 2=real)
1 Ace of 5 no Q	4	5}	Suit asking bid (if Q only will they find the lead in 6? if you don't want to take that risk then pass the 5 answer)
K or AQ	5	6}	Suit asking bid (if Q you pass the 6 bid)
K or AQ	6	6
	Pass
*system on that means the "lost" bids 1 and 2

with an interference, all = SYSTEM ON (as far as possible)				North: T93, J872, 876, 742
W	A84		2	E
W/NS	AQ53		KT6
QJ2			AK9543
AQ3			K85
South: bids 1 withKQJ765, 94, T, JT96				origin board: Ruitenboer 27-1-2004

13+ any shape		[Pass]	[1]	part balanced or 12+ any
(1)	13+ balanced OR Delta 1 opening 13-16p. all other bids are system on	[Pass]	[X]	12+ any shape or 1 balanced opening 6-11p (=) all other bids are system on
13-15p. balanced with 5+c or 6+c 16+ all 15-16 max Delta 1 opening		[1]	2	system on= 12-15p. Delta s/v 4441 up to 7330 or 8+c and with top controls
and you will reach easely 7 as if there were no interference; the auction should be :
13+ any shape		[Pass]	[1]	part balanced or 12+ any
13+ bal. or else ++		[1]	[1]	12+ any shape
18+ bal. or ++ else		[1]	2	Delta s/v 4441 up to 7330 or 8+c 1-suiter + Top control
relay		[2]	3	L=
relay		[3]	3	1 suiter
relay		[4]	4	minimum (12-13p) 6331 or 7321
relay		[4]	4	« 1363 »
Slam asking bid		4}	5	2 of 5 Aces no Q
Suit asking bid		5}	6	K or AQ
Suit asking bid (if non in, then stiff K and you end in 6)		6}	7	K or AQ
After 3 bid you do not need to know the exact distribution, the auction could proceed also with
show your control (not in )		3}	4	K or Ace and no stiff Ace or King in
you can ask for more controls or exact distribution but with your own holding you nealry can bid 7 but you have to check if partner has not x,KJ,Axxxx,KJ		4}	5	2 of 5 Aces no Q
if a 5431, Suit(s) has to run or an auto sqeeze (Jxx or Jxxx does not count)		7	P
In case South bids 2
a maximum		[X]	3	Lebensohl
value and suits me		3}	3}	stopper asking
stopper		3}	4}	control + control
waiting		4}	4}	control
Ace asking		4}	5	2 of 5 Aces no Q
Suit asking bid		5}	6	K or AQ
Suit asking bid (if non in, then stiff K and you end in 6) normally 6= Suit asking for but not now because of interference		6}	7	K or AQ
		7	P
So the same sequence with 4 etc.

Normally The Relayer can ASK only for stopper(s) or a half-stopper within the whole system. In a 5m332 sequence I have worked out an very extended scheme in case RR gives information (without R is asking for) regarding his stopper(s) including the possibility to have at the same time information about the distribution or to be able to find f.e. a Mosian Fit.
As an example only, because it loads your memory hughly, and to show you that there are further possibilities within the system to explore/adjust if you prefer that more then the given "standard" ones. (see this example)

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it takes 16 auction rounds only.......
W	A		KQ	E
W/non	Axxx		KQx
Axxxx			KQJ
AKQ			xxxxx

13+ any shape or 12+ extreme	[Pass]	[1]	6+ bal. (except 6-11 4333,4432, any 5332 poor suit, 5M422) 12+ singleton/void Deltascheme (4441 up to 7330) 11+ singleton/void Extreme scheme
balanced 13+ singleton/void Delta scheme 17+ singleton/void Extreme scheme 16+	[1]	[1]	12+ balanced all (4333 up to 7222) 12+ singleton/void Delta scheme 15+ singleton/void Extreme scheme
balanced 18+ singleton/void Delta scheme 17+ singleton/void Extreme scheme 20+	[1]	[1]	14+ balanced all (4333 up to 7222) 16+ singleton/void Delta scheme (or 12-15 Delta and no Aces) 15+ singleton/void Extreme scheme (a part)
balanced 18+ singleton/void Delta scheme 21+ singleton/void Extreme scheme 24-26	[2]	[2]	14-15 | 16-17 or (5332, 5422, 6322) 18+ balanced all 4333 up to 7222 16+ singleton/void Delta scheme 15+ singleton/void Extreme scheme (a part)
auto relay	[2]	2	14-15 | 16-17 (5332, 5422, 6322)
relay	[2]	3	5332 or 5422
relay	[3]	3	5332 or 5422
final distribution relay + min or max?	[3]	3	« 2335 » and a minimum (=14-15 points, for a stiff KQ deduct 1 HCP)
Slab (Slam Asking bid and = trumpf)	4}	4	0 or 3 Aces of 5, if 3 then no Q
Sab (Suit Asking bid )	4}	4	nothing or KQ in
Sab (Suit Asking bid )	4}	5	nothing or KQ in
Sab (Suit Asking bid )	5}	5	nothing or KQ in
Jacks? (in same order with spiral scan)	5}	5	no J
Jack?	6}	6	no J
Jack?	6}	7	J
	7	Pass
see thread in rgb too

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Jack Juggle
W	A6		73	E
W/non	K4		A92
KQ32			AJ854
AKQ32			J75	VIVA 16th april 2004

13+ any shape	[Pass]	1	0-5 points no Ace òr any King and Queen OR 6-11 4333/4432, 5332 no 2 Toph. or 5M4?22
13+ any 5c+ OR 23+ with a 4333/4432	[1]	1	6-9 4333/4432, 5m332 no 2 Toph (Jack does not count)
positive relay	[2]	3*	good 8 or a normal 9 and a 5332 if 7 then A + any King
with 3 you can ask for exact distribution but in this case not so important, 3 = Control points?	3}	4	4CP = step 4 but because of a max zoom ---> 4= +Aces, Queens are not possible, next zoom ---> Jacks;+ Jacks are possible because AJ twice is a 9 -pointer 4=+ Ace, Jack no Jack (the order is )
Scan	5}	5	Jack
	7
*or you can play the more sophisticated answers
positive relay	[2]	3	good 8 or a normal 9 and a 5332 if 7 then A + any King + 1 Major stopper (not both)
bid 3 if a stopper if not give your final distribution	3}	3	stopper
final distribution relay	[4]	4	« 2353»
SLam Asking Bid	4}	5	2 Aces of 5 no Q (any A + K + Q = 9pointer!)
Scan Jacks	6}	6	J, no J
Scan further	6}	7	J no J
	7
In this case this answer scheme (although in case of game only much better) allows you to investigate for J too. I will explain the sequence after the 5 bid: Because there can be a side-Queen now, or Relayer has the choise to do a Trump Suit asking (East must realize this too) and West is interested only in J (7 is cold already) take the highest SAB= bid = 6}. East knows at the same time that you are not interested in the trump quality, otherwise you had bid 5 , a direct Jack-asking bid after 5 with 6 is not possible because a 6-bid above the agreed trump suit = to play. So East knows that the Relayer is aware of his real 2 Aces. Conclusion: this 6-bid can not be a SAB. If this leads too far for you , no problem:
Suit Asking Bid	6}	6	no Q (KQ is not possible)
Scan Jacks excluding (it can not be real)	6}	6	no J
Scan further (just in time!)	7}	7	J no J
	7

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Jack Juggle 2
W	AKQ4		T9632	E
W/non	J8		A9
AK			QJ8752
KJ932			-	BBO forum

13+ any shape	[Pass]	3	5-8 points 6+/5+ vv
relay, asking for void or 1-1	[4]	4	void
SLam Asking Bid (4 = distribution relay, 4 = to play; I don't like your void)	4}	5	1 Ace of 5 , no Q
Suit Asking Bid	5}	5	Q or AK
Scan Jacks, but without J (6 =Sab, 6 = Scan Jacks incl. J)	6}	6	Jack, no J
	7	Pass

an 1 opening does not hurt a strong partner...
W	AKJ4		T98642	E
E/EW	KQ94		AT765
AKT8			32
8
origin board: Bermuda Bowl, Beijing 1995

	-	[1]	0-6p. extreme shapes 0-7p. the rest
any 5c or 4441 13+ 4333/4432 23+	[1]	[1]	6-7 any s/v 4441 up to 7330 0r 8+ 1 suiter 4-6 extreme shapes
positive hand and a relay	[2]	[2]	the 4-6 Extreme shapes
still interested, relay	[2]	3	4-5p. 7/8/9c + 4c? 5-6p. 4c + 7/8/9c? 4-6p. 6+/5+c / or vv
positive relay	[3]	3	4-5p 6+/5+c / or vv note: 4-5p. = Ace or 2Q or KQ in doubleton
relay (distribution but start with side suits specially void)	[4]	4	void
relay (distribution if >---> zoom	[4]	5	« 6520» and a Real Ace
why not mention the suit on the 7 level ;-)	7	Pass
with a less or far more less strong West hand there were en route enough possibilities to break the relay and bid naturally

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